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1  GENERAL / General Board / Re: Are " White men Damned ? " on: September 28, 2005, 12:27:46 PM
Thanks again.Some things really are ringing with truth to me.I am not overtly racist but I realize that some of my actions when seen by others would be, and are.I work with Latin Americans and many racist practices exist within the labor industry that I disapprove of but have ignored because of coarse " It didn't effect me ".Or rather it worked in my favor.I know where immediate changes are needed in my life and deeper ones that will take more time and will power to make happen too.I know it is the luxury of the so called White man to be able to choose to ignore what he doesn't wish to see or deal with.I know I can't change everything wrong with the world and myself but thanks again for helping me get started.I do feel ashamed , not so much for outward actions, which is bad enough, but for the inner weakness I have had.We all know, meaning white men, what is right.Some seem to be afraid and angry and some are weak and complacent.I guess that was me.I had the " hippie " mentality of " I'll just be good and that will be good enough".Non-participation is submission to the enemy.If I turn away from issues they still exist and often without any oversight most things just get worse.I know it's selfish but it feels good to confess, the truth hurts but the lie kills.Thanks again.
2  GENERAL / General Board / Re: Are " White men Damned ? " on: September 26, 2005, 04:59:54 PM
I appreciate the links and I did read them.Some I've seen before and other are newer to me.My question or concern is not the understanding of how our( Roman=English=United States ) functions it's just what now?Changing hearts and minds will take a very long time, perhaps as long as it took to damage them ( 500 years ).I feel like a grain of sand compared to the ocean of problems.Do " whites" need to apologize to every Afro- American they meet for the sin of being " White ".I'm not being cynical or aggressive I just don't know what to do.What response is real and what is over done political correctness of the moment.The problem is deep , so the response should be as well.Do all whites need to give up their lives to show we , I , recognize pain and damage.Like I'm saying, I just don't know what is enough, or rather how to begin.
3  GENERAL / General Board / Are " White men Damned ? " on: September 26, 2005, 01:25:56 PM
I am a " White " man.Do I have to be ashamed for my birth?I have worked very hard over the last 15 years to provide for a family.We have a modest home that my wife and I both work to pay for over the next 30 years.I have 2 children that attend public school.I work and have worked a labor job my entire working life.I get up at 4 am and work to 6 pm.I don't know how fortunate I am.Why do I have to be ashamed? I stay informed on politics and issues of the day.I am very disturbed by the actions of the government.I am disturbed that the same government taxes 30% of my family's income and then spends it unwisely.I don't see how much has changed in all of history.When feeding and raising a family is your priority not much else seems to matter.Do I have to be damned for this ?Is it really all my fault that no one cares about poor people.I'm working poor and I can't worry to much about why no one helps me.I guess you need faith but it hard to find any.Does it make it better knowing some "white men " are just that and not horrible white devils bent on destruction.Where is the love to be found?
4  GENERAL / General Board / Re: 'The Shame of the Nation': Separate and Unequal on: September 26, 2005, 01:12:16 PM
I get very depressed by stories like this.I'm a white man, I work very hard at my manual labor job, I have been able over the last 15 years of labor, with great contributions from my wife, to provide a home and life for my family.Nothing has come free or easy.Why do I have to feel ashamed.I didn't grow up with any wealth , I attended public schools, I didn't go to college, i just got a job and stuck it out.I realize that racism is real, the most real issue in the world today.How can I change to help it.I vote.I educate my children to respect all life equally and I try to lead by example.Not all  " white " humans are bad, just as not any group is all good.I just don't know.Most of the talk on this site is radical and needed to be so .I feel the need for radical change.Can anything ever set things right? I guess I need faith but it's hard to come by these days.I feel like being " White " is like being Catholic.Born from sin and damned throughout life because of it.Why can't I feel pride in what I've accomplished in life?Why do I have to be ashamed?The same racist government that keeps others down does so by stealing 1/2 my income to do it.How can anything get anywhere?I do my best , just to be told I'm lucky.The only reason I have what I do is that I'm white? It's just not all true.What is the desired solution?Help me to understand.
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